I am a real person, with a verifiable history, and I'm being in effect put on trial and dictated to by people of whom WE KNOW NOTHING.
That should be repellant to any person of decency and good sense. Nameless faceless people, of whom I and anyone else reading this know nothing - are making the rules and accusing me. Also sickening to me is that I'm having this discussion with an IP address.īecause what this is - is a star-chamber proceeding. I repeat what I said: You are presenting hypothetical possibilities of an almost infinite remoteness against a huge, known, proven and present danger - anal penetration.Īnd that is sickening to me - literally.Īs someone who lost his lover and more than 200 friends to HIV - it is sickening.Ģ. Rough, tough guys whom we may assume have abrasions on their hands masturbate each other to orgasm all the time, and get ejaculate on each other's hands - and they do NOT get HIV.
#Masculine gay men frot skin
What I'm talking about is ejaculate flying through the air or flowing down skin and entering a wound.Ĭan you provide any proof that that's ever resulted in seroconversion? That's a bizarre, bug-chasing, scenario and it is not fair to ask us to answer for it. I'm not talking about a man placing his penis in an open wound and purposefully ejaculating into it. It requires very specific conditions to infect.Ĭan you provide any proof of the open wound theory? These include many men like myself who had passionate long-term sexual relationships with guys who died of AIDS. I have been in touch over the last six years with literally tens of thousands of Frot men. No, you do not, because if you did, you would have said so. Do you have any documented proof of HIV transmission during Frot? But if you wan't your say on those other topics, please go over to those articles where your comments will be on topic and appropriate.ġ.
#Masculine gay men frot free
If you have a problem with my wording please feel free to adjust it. I wrote nothing about sexual orientation, the words gay and bi do not appear in my edits of the page. I wrote nothing about outercourse between men, only heterosexual outercourse. I wrote nothing about anal sex, I see no need to mention it unless you wish to describe you organization. Frication_(sex) or Princeton Rub and you could write a subheading describing you your group and your views, or the word frot could simply be avoided. I understand you protectiveness of your term but you are not the sole authority on male-male gg sex, if you prefer you could ask another member to write the article under another name (i.e. Most people in sex education will say that abrasions, open cuts and semen entering the urethra are to be avoided during any sex, we could, of course simply not discuss the safety/risk of male genito-genital sex specifically if its so controversial. The article as I edited it contained an external link to your site, an in text link and a mention of your name. Not a good moral point of view, nor a bad destructie point of view, but neutral. Wikipedia is supposed to provide as close to a neutral point of view as possible. It doesn't matter what people want to hear, you can carry on you work at your own site. Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.131.102.6 ( talk) 09:23, (UTC) from "The IP address" This requires statistical evidence but a major problem in this kind kind of research is separating out behaviors - many people engage in all kinds of sexual acts and do not always self-report accurately. There was no penile penetration of the anus and this person never engaged in anal sex. The other partner did not ejaculate but had a visible discharge. I have a close friend who - without any doubt - contracted penile gonorrhea from frot or oral.